Westboro Baptist Will Find Justification To Continue, Pastor’s Son Says

The death of Rev. Fred Phelps Sr., the Westboro Baptist Church founder who family and church members say is in hospice care, would put his followers in a crisis, says Nate Phelps, a son of the longtime pastor. That’s because the church’s members “think that death is a judgment from God,” Nate Phelps says.

Phelps’ comments come from an interview with The Topeka Capital-Journal, in which he adds, “So far, that illusion has held because none of them has passed.”

The church’s members are convinced that they will be taken up by Jesus Christ, Nate Phelps tells the newspaper.

“They’re clear about that, that they’re not going to feel the sting of death,” he says.

Nate Phelps says that if that belief isn’t borne out, the church’s members will likely see it as a test of their faith. He predicted that some would find a “palatable justification” to continue on with Westboro Baptist.

News that the founder of the church that’s known for using controversial funeral protests to carry out a campaign against gays and other groups was in hospice care came out over the weekend, along with a statement from Nathan Phelps that his father had been excommunicated last summer from the church he built.

Fred Phelps Sr., “is now on the edge of death at Midland Hospice house in Topeka, Kansas,” Nathan Phelps wrote in a Facebook post. He said that church members were preventing him and others who have left the family over the church’s teachings from seeing the ailing church founder, who is 84.

The reason for Phelps’ excommunication isn’t known; a church spokesman interviewed by the Capital-Journal didn’t deny it had occurred, but he refused to elaborate. He also said that while Phelps is in hospice, he isn’t near death. Another of Phelps’ sons contacted the newspaper to say its version of events was accurate.

Nate Phelps told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday night that church members had voted Phelps out of the church “after some kind of falling out.”

He added that Fred Phelps and his wife were moved out of the space they had long occupied above the church and into a nearby house. Afterwards, the church founder stopped eating and drinking, Nate Phelps said.

The AP reports, “Nate Phelps said he has no doubt some people would want to protest his father’s funeral but added, ‘I wish they wouldn’t.'”

The possibility of Fred Phelps dying has led to questions over how Westboro Baptist might continue, and whether the church’s followers would persist in their attempts to garner publicity for their views at funerals and other events.

A look at the church’s website shows no break in its “Picket Schedule,” which lists upcoming shows by the singer Lorde and comedian Kathy Griffin as targets. The site also features a video titled “Aye, God Hates St. Patrick’s Day,” featuring spokesman Steven Drain, who is mentioned by Nathan Phelps as a possible successor to his father.

On Sunday, Drain told the Capital-Journal that Westboro Baptist doesn’t have a central leader , saying, “The Lord Jesus Christ is our head.”

He added that several church elders have been preaching at the church.

“For a very long time, we haven’t been organized in the way you think,”Drain said.

Nathan Phelps says that his brother, Tim, and Drain have both “shown the fire” that would be required of the church’s pastor. But he also tells the Capital-Journal that several long-time church members “could get up and do the same job as the old man has done. They’ve heard [the preachings] a million times.”